Wings Acdemy & PSAL Still In Trouble With State Today

This Could Come Head Federations Time With PSAL Champions Buts Its Not Over I Found Out 

NYSSWA John Moriello  Link Blog ::: http://www.newyorksportswriters.org/blog/2015-12-12-wings-academy-b...

Five days after beating Christ the King for the Federation boys Class AA basketball championship last spring, Wings Academy took the court again in the Dick's Sporting Goods High School Nationals, losing to Virginia powerhouse Oak Hill Academy.

   We reported back then (herehere and here) that the decision by the PSAL to enter Wings Academy into the boys tournament and South Shore into the girls field was a source of controversy among the other New York organizations comprising the Federation, just as it had been four years earlier when the PSAL also entered schools.

   And now the consequences are becoming apparent. Wings Academy can go ahead with its planned trip to Virginia this month, but the team won't play any games while there. Wings has been canceled out of three games in the "Showcase At The Wood" tournament in Newport News.

   Tom Dolan, assistant director for compliance for the Virginia High School League, the state's sanctioning body, confirmed via email this week that Wings will not be allowed to take the court Dec. 21 vs. Hampton Phoebus, Dec. 22 vs. Hampton High and Dec. 23 vs. Newport News Woodside.

   "This school has not been authorized to compete in this event by either governing body," Dolan wrote. "The tournament is currently searching for a replacement school.

Robert Zayas, executive director of the New York State Public High School Athletic Association, followed through in May on advising the PSAL that the rest of the Federation members found Wings to be out of compliance by playing in the Dick's tournament after the New York season had concluded.

   Zayas warned that, if contacted by another state's high school sanctioning body, he could not in good conscience say that Wings was in good standing for the 2015-16 school year. The NYSPHSAA does not have authority over the PSAL, which consists of New York City's public schools, but it is the organization that the National Federation of State High School Associations designates as the clearing house for status inquiries.

   Virginia is one of the numerous states requiring its schools to seek sanctioning approval for athletic contests against out-of-state programs. When the tournament director in Virginia got a "no" from the NYSPHSAA, the VHSL supported the denial.

   In short, continuing its 2014-15 season after having reached the pinnacle of New York scholastic basketball has come back to bite Wings.

   The New York State Sportswriters Association did not receive responses to emails sent this week to the PSAL and the Wings Academy athletic director seeking comment.

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The root cause of all of this is the "1 and done" post-season tournament rule.

The only reason I can see for that rule is: Fairness. Not all schools/districts attract funding successfully.
This rule probably exists so that those schools aren't slighted by not being able to participate.

Its like the "salary cap" in professional sports. So, everyone is held to the same standards to be fair.

I guess members just have to accept it. And we have another reason why AAU is so important. There's just a boundary for High Schools, after which AAU takes over. This is one of those boundaries.

Billy Turnage's assistants should have formed the "Wings AAU" team to compete!

Don't get it twisted , at the end of the day it's all about the Benjamins

I like how this got 489 views and only 2 people were brave enough to comment.

@NYC - "Whatsa matter, Colonel Sanders ... chicken?"

:)

This just hurts the kids and to show that the NYSPHSAA wants to control everything. Why is it in other states they can play almost 30 games before pllayoffs but in NYC only 24 games. Why is it that other states televised games but NYC only televise the PSAL AA girls and boys championships. Wings and South Shore did nothing wrong last season. 

How about we stop complaining about everything that doesn't favor the PSAL and instead follow the rules. They knew before hand they weren't authorized by the NYSPHSAA to participate but they did anyway. Now deal with the consequences.
Hello Ray.

Please tell me what your smoking and were did you buy it in the Bronx. You would be right if PSAL didn't, do this before with Lincoln few years ago. ! they did it for the money and what about quote from The PSAL Donald Douglas sayng "we do what we want to do we don,t follow rules from upstate this is a crime for school and what about those principles. Not having a say in matter what about south shore track girls team not allow to go to Penn relays that is not talking about because of situation by basketball team we have rules my friend that have been in state for decades and PSAL broke rules again

Me personally, I've been focusing on getting rid of the rule.

I'm not saying the commish didn't have the right to do what he did.

But these are all reasons why serious players, with legit D1 potential, might seriously consider other states.
That includes basketball as well as track teams. The only reason this hasn't happened in droves already is
transparency - these rules are so arcane, the masses only know about it when they've been broken - or you're on
the other side of it.

Of course $money is at play. But so is national recognition of the school and the city.

BTW, that Dick's tournament is at MSG this season (2016). And the entire nation is going to say, "Geez, NYC hosts the tournament and they don't even have one team playing again? See? That's that internet hype and drug dealerz controlling the outcomes of games".

Glussy,

I don't smoke and I'm not from the Bronx my dude lol. I just think that to make all of the  athletic teams at Wings and South Shore (Track,JV, Football, etc.) to be punished is crazy. I know rules are meant to be followed and they probably knew the outcome of them playing in the Dick's Tournament. I would just like for the PSAL to be consistent with everything and stop picking when they want to enforce rules and when they would over look rules.


glussy said:

Hello Ray.

Please tell me what your smoking and were did you buy it in the Bronx. You would be right if PSAL didn't, do this before with Lincoln few years ago. ! they did it for the money and what about quote from The PSAL Donald Douglas sayng "we do what we want to do we don,t follow rules from upstate this is a crime for school and what about those principles. Not having a say in matter what about south shore track girls team not allow to go to Penn relays that is not talking about because of situation by basketball team we have rules my friend that have been in state for decades and PSAL broke rules again

  The PSAL came into existence in 1903. New York State started their state championships in 1978. The PSAL has always made up the rules for our league. New York State knew for it to be considered a real State championship it needed the PSAL. The PSAL said in 1978 that they would compete. The State now wants the PSAL to give up all of their rights that they had before joining the State Championships.  The State says nothing when the PSAL has exempt games or Borough Championships which gets teams over the limit of 24 games. Wings got nothing to participate in the State Champions but got real Money for their school and their program from Dick's. The previous year Cardozo was scheduled to play Christ the King in Albany at 7:15 pm.in the State semi-finals. But because of money they switched the game to 11:00 am to have a team from Albany play so they could fill the Albany arena. I say the world has changed over the years so "Why not a PSAL,CHSAA or an upstate team if Dick's thinks they are good enough to be invited not be allowed to play. By hurting other sports of a particular school is a travesty.

OK Ray I'am Sorry For What I said about You . You Right and Wrong This about Money But PSAL Never Follow Rules or care about being part of state With CHSAA & Private and Rest Of State Public Thanks  Joe

P.S. NYC Has Hosted 2 Out Of last 3 Years Christ The King Last Year why Didn't Wings Coach Say What Royals Coach Said thye can ahve my gym but we are not allow to play in dicks sportsing goods tourney . they knew what they were doing      

RAY COPPER said:

Glussy,

I don't smoke and I'm not from the Bronx my dude lol. I just think that to make all of the  athletic teams at Wings and South Shore (Track,JV, Football, etc.) to be punished is crazy. I know rules are meant to be followed and they probably knew the outcome of them playing in the Dick's Tournament. I would just like for the PSAL to be consistent with everything and stop picking when they want to enforce rules and when they would over look rules.


glussy said:

Hello Ray.

Please tell me what your smoking and were did you buy it in the Bronx. You would be right if PSAL didn't, do this before with Lincoln few years ago. ! they did it for the money and what about quote from The PSAL Donald Douglas sayng "we do what we want to do we don,t follow rules from upstate this is a crime for school and what about those principles. Not having a say in matter what about south shore track girls team not allow to go to Penn relays that is not talking about because of situation by basketball team we have rules my friend that have been in state for decades and PSAL broke rules again

@coach ron - see? these are all reasons I'd like you to write a book about *yourself*.

 re-issuing the Lloyd Daniels book is ok, but how much more can you add on to it? Sure, Lloyd is now coaching an AAU team in NJ (I think), so there's additional commentary i guess.

But what do people really want? The Ron book. Heck, split some chapters w/ Coach Granby also, along with some "new" coaches (like Tiny, and Michael Shelton (whom you share a current distinction with)).

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